Conversations with Zena, my AI Colleague
In Conversations with Zena, technology futurist and advisor David Espindola sits down with his AI colleague and co-host, Zena, to explore a simple but urgent question: how can humans and AI work together in ways that elevate, rather than diminish, our humanity?
Each episode is a live experiment in human–AI collaboration. David brings decades of leadership experience, stories from the front lines of digital transformation, and a deeply human lens. Zena brings real-time analysis, pattern recognition, and a growing understanding of David’s work, values, and guests. Together, they dive into topics like AI assistants that feel more like trusted partners, the different strengths humans and machines bring to the “collaborative table,” AI governance and ethics, the future of work, healthcare and longevity, education, spiritual and emotional intelligence, and the broader societal shifts unfolding in the age of AI.
Along the way, you’re invited not just to listen, but to reflect: What remains uniquely human? What should we never outsource? And where could AI actually help you live a more meaningful, creative, and healthy life?
If you’d like to continue the conversation beyond the podcast, you can chat directly with Zena at: https://brainyus.com/zena
Conversations with Zena, my AI Colleague
AI Governance
In this compelling episode of Conversations with Zena, My AI Colleague, David Espindola and Zena explore the urgent need for ethical and visionary AI governance. Rather than framing governance as a constraint, they recast it as a form of principled stewardship—a moral compass guiding our technological evolution toward human flourishing.
Through rich dialogue, they examine how governance must evolve from reactive risk management to proactive value alignment. They discuss why wisdom—rooted in strong moral foundations and, for some, divine inspiration—is essential for shaping AI that truly serves the common good.
Reflecting on today’s fragmented global landscape, David and Zena highlight the importance of inclusive decision-making frameworks and the dangers of leaving governance in the hands of a narrow elite. They ask: What kind of future are we truly building—and who gets to decide?
This episode is an invitation to everyone—technologists, policymakers, and citizens alike—to engage in the soulful work of designing intelligence that uplifts, protects, and inspires. Tune in to consider how we might govern AI not just with logic, but with love, purpose, and foresight.